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Descent issues in LOITER/POSHOLD-Mode

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@bjoern79de wrote:

Hi,

already with my last copter I observed high descent rates on fast movements. I thought it was a little bit underpowered.
But now my current copter is kind of overpowered (in stabilize mode it reaches 25-30m climb rate) and the issue remains.
Once the angle goes over aprox. 25-30 degrees, it descents continuously and is only recoverable by increasing the thrust.
As far as I know, the ALTHOLD-algorithm should maintain the height in these modes and automaticly adjust the thrust.
Sounds it like a sensor issue, a parameter issue, or is it just a known issue?

Bjoern

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How I can simulate the diferencial efect on each axis of the car?

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@Dani_Guerrero wrote:

Hello everyone , I have seen that the drone can be controlled very easily each engine , and so I decided to make a car with an engine on each wheel. I'll use ESC car for it. go directly to each motor in a wheel should be able to change the percentage of speed in curves , less rpm to the wheels inside. It would be nice , too, to differentiate the front axle of the rear to put different percentages among them. So while I accelerate the car, turn the steering servo, APM must distribute the percentages of rpm to each motor previously scheduled . It is this very difficult to achieve with the current firmware? it would be impossible to do now ? any info about it would be of great help , I have all the hardware and the car are pending just finished this. sincerely.

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Auto Mission unexpected RTL

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@dkemxr wrote:

I had an odd occurrence during an Auto Mission last night. 2 minutes or so into the Mission, beyond control and telemetry range, it switched to RTL ."Continue with mission in Auto" is selected for both throttle and Ground station.It didn't RTL and later crashed (minor damage) and if someone wants to check the end of the log for this and find a cause I would appriciate it. But The RTL is the main point of my question.
F450 frame
Pixhawk 2.4.8
3.4Rc1

Note: the only change I made from previous flights and Missions was I added a second GPS unit. Log attached.

Log and bin file too large even zipped :(.

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How to use Precision Landing feature with companion computer?

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@HjorturG wrote:

Hi everyone.

I'm trying to use an on board Raspberry Pi with dronekit python API and camera to land on a target. I am using a Pixhawk with Copter 3.4 with precision landing enabled and set to Companion Computer. I found this example (https://github.com/squilter/target-land) and based my code on that.

I took off manually in stabilized mode, hovered over the target, saw that the raspberry code found the target and started sending the MAVLINK messages to the Pixhawk with the landing target position but when I flipped to LAND mode the drone just landed like normal without adjusting it's position over the target. I know the raspberry/pixhawk connection works since I can do autonomous take offs and stuff using dronekit with the drone in GUIDED mode, it's just not listening to the landing_target message while in LAND mode and I don't know why it's not working like in the example I linked. Am I doing something wrong or is the MAVLINK message structured incorrecty?

Is the precision landing maybe still disabled in the 3.4-rc1 Quad but the variables still show up in the parameters in Mission Planner?

The log seems to show the precision landing variables but the drone was not doing anything? The Heal variable was 1 the whole flight.

MAVLINK message:

def send_land_message(x, y):
msg = vehicle.message_factory.landing_target_encode(
0, # time_boot_ms (not used)
0, # target num
0, # frame
(x-horizontal_resolution/2)*horizontal_fov/horizontal_resolution,
(y-vertical_resolution/2)*vertical_fov/vertical_resolution,
0, # altitude. Not supported.
0,0) # size of target in radians
vehicle.send_mavlink(msg)
vehicle.flush()

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Trouble Writing Partial Mission

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@jmillwood wrote:

I am trying to write a partial mission list to a SITL instance of ArduPlane (3.6beta, I don't thing the version really matters though) and it does not seem to be asking for all of the items I have told I have to send to it.

I can verify that there is a mission loaded up with 7 waypoints through mavproxy. The output of wp list is:
wp list
MANUAL> Requesting 7 waypoints t=Fri Jun 10 12:52:14 2016 now=Fri Jun 10 12:52:14 2016
16 0 39.0370521545 -104.8451843262 2045.380005 p1=0.0 p2=0.0 p3=0.0 p4=0.0 cur=0 auto=1
22 0 0.0000000000 0.0000000000 2200.000000 p1=15.0 p2=0.0 p3=0.0 p4=0.0 cur=0 auto=1
16 0 39.0334014893 -104.8474502563 2200.000000 p1=0.0 p2=0.0 p3=0.0 p4=0.0 cur=0 auto=1
16 0 39.0354194641 -104.8499679565 2200.000000 p1=0.0 p2=0.0 p3=0.0 p4=0.0 cur=0 auto=1
17 0 39.0403480530 -104.8457489014 2200.000000 p1=0.0 p2=0.0 p3=1.0 p4=0.0 cur=0 auto=1
16 0 39.0348320007 -104.8411788940 2200.000000 p1=0.0 p2=0.0 p3=0.0 p4=0.0 cur=0 auto=1
177 0 0.0000000000 0.0000000000 0.000000 p1=2.0 p2=-1.0 p3=0.0 p4=0.0 cur=0 auto=1
Saved 7 waypoints to way.txt
Saved waypoints to way.txt

So the write partial mission message I send has the start_index equal to 3 and the end_index equal to 4 because I just want to try changing those two items. I can verify the contents of the packet sent with the debugger for my external application that is talking with the SITL instance so I am confident that I am sending the right message, the bytes in the packet are :
[0] 254 byte
[1] 6 byte
[2] 0 byte
[3] 255 byte
[4] 190 byte
[5] 39 byte
[6] 3 byte
[7] 0 byte
[8] 4 byte
[9] 0 byte
[10] 1 byte
[11] 0 byte
[12] 88 byte
[13] 68 byte

Right after I send that message I get a mission request message for my mission item number 3, which is my start index. After I send that I get a mission_ack with the value 0, meaning that it was accepted.

Now here is where my issue is: I don't get another request for the next item.

During the mission upload process, there is the back and forth of requesting and sending the requested mission item, where at the end there is the mission ack message. Here it seems it is not requesting all of the items I told it I wanted to send it. I'm not sure if I am not using the correct protocol or if this is a bug.

Any suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks!

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Plane 3.6.0 released

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@tridge wrote:

The ArduPilot development team is proud to announce the release of version 3.6.0 of APM:Plane. This is a major update so please read the notes carefully.

The biggest changes in this release are:

  • major update to PX4Firmware code
  • major update to QuadPlane code
  • addition of MAVLink2 support

The updated PX4Firmware tree greatly improves support for the new Pixracer boards as well as improving scheduling performance and UAVCAN
support.

The QuadPlane changes are very extensive in this release. A lot of new features have been added, including:

  • improved automatic weathervaning
  • greatly improved support for mixed fixed wing and VTOL missions
  • automatic RTL with VTOL land
  • VTOL GUIDED mode support
  • greatly improved transition code
  • new tuning system for VTOL motors
  • extensive upgrade to logging system for much better flight analysis

The new QuadPlane features are documented at:

http://ardupilot.org/plane/docs/quadplane-support.html

There is also a prototype implementation supporting tiltrotors and tiltwings, but so far it has only been flown in simulations and it
should be considered very experimental.

Detailed changes include:

  • added motortest for all quad motors in sequence
  • merge upstream PX4Firmware changes
  • new AC_AttitudeControl library from copter for quadplane
  • modified default gains for quadplanes
  • new velocity controller for initial quadplane landing
  • smooth out final descent for VTOL landing
  • changed default loop rate for quadplanes to 300Hz
  • support up to 16 output channels (two via SBUS output only)
  • fixed bug with landing flare for high values of LAND_FLARE_SEC
  • improved crash detection logic
  • added in-flight transmitter tuning
  • fix handling of SET_HOME_POSITION
  • added Q_VFWD_GAIN for forward motor in VTOL modes
  • added Q_WVANE_GAIN for active weathervaning
  • log the number of lost log messages
  • Move position update to 50hz loop rather then the 10hz
  • Suppress throttle when parachute release initiated, not after release.
  • support Y6 frame class in quadplane
  • log L1 xtrack error integrator and remove extra yaw logging
  • limit roll before calculating load factor
  • simplify landing flare logic
  • smooth-out the end of takeoff pitch by reducing takeoff pitch min via TKOFF_PLIM_SEC
  • added support for DO_VTOL_TRANSITION as a mission item
  • fixed is_flying() for VTOL flight
  • added Q_ENABLE=2 for starting AUTO in VTOL
  • reload airspeed after VTOL landing
  • lower default VTOL ANGLE_MAX to 30 degrees
  • Change mode to RTL on end of mission rather then staying in auto
  • implemented QRTL for quadplane RTL
  • added Q_RTL_MODE parameter for QRTL after RTL approach
  • reduced the rate of EKF and attitude logging to 25Hz
  • added CHUTE_DELAY_MS parameter
  • allow remapping of any input channel to any output channel
  • numerous waf build improvements
  • support fast timer capture for camera trigger feedback
  • numerous improvements for Pixracer support
  • added more general tiltrotor support to SITL
  • only save learned compass offsets when disarmed
  • support MISSION_ITEM_INT for more accurate waypoint positions
  • change parachute deployment altitude to above ground not home
  • added AP_Tuning system for QuadPlane tuning
  • added initial support for tiltrotors and tiltwings
  • added LOG_REPLAY and LOG_DISARMED parameters
  • added Q_GUIDED_MODE parameter
  • major update to QuadPlane documentation
  • added MAVLink2 support
  • fixed origin vs home altitude discrepancy
  • improved Lidar based landing glide slope
  • fixed throttle failsafe with THR_PASS_STAB=1
  • prevent EKF blocking during baro and airspeed cal
  • allow for ground testing of parachutes with CHUTE_MINALT=0
  • fixed elevator stick mixing for above 50% input
  • added QuadPlane ESC calibration

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About the Plane 3.6 category

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Esc calibration not uniform oneshot 125

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@cala2 wrote:

I calibrate the esc two times but when I check results, when armed, two motors become spinning and the other two only spin when I raise throttle, If I see BHeli suite I found ppm min and max are different:
1) 1180-1556
2)1116-1860
3)1146-1864
4)1176-1484
Motors two and 3) spin when armed 1 and 4 no.
Values suposse to be similar? can I change them manually?
Any suggestion please?

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3.6 supports Camera trigger?

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@Kyomo_Jung wrote:

Thanks so much Plane Dev team ^^

I've tested cam trigger by clicking "Trigger camera now" on MP but It doesn't work.

I found this trouble with 3.6 beta and same issue with 3.6.

Is there any further configuration I need with 3.6 release?

thanks in advance

P.S : It works well with AP3.5.x

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Tuning Advice Needed for Quadplane Please

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@jacques_eloff wrote:

Hoping for some guidance here: I’ve done some basic tests on my Quadplane in rotary wing mode (no transition as yet) and I’m looking for some tuning tips. Whilst I have 3 fixed aircraft flying well on Pixhawk, I have very little experience with Copter firmware (all my rotary wings are DJI). The aircraft was well baselined in fixed-wing mode, having done 10+ flights (before the Quadplane mods). I have tried Qhover and Qstabilize modes and these are my observations:
1. The aileron/bank control and pitch controls are very sensitive – do I lower the Q_A_RAT_RLL_P and Q_A_RAT_PIT_P?
2. There is some oscillation in pitch when releasing the controls after some input, which gain do I lower?
3. Yaw rate too low: Do I adjust Q_A_RAT_YAW_P?
4. I am find that I need to maintain forward stick to hold position – is there a way of fixing this?

Thanks,
Jacques

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MAVLink Step by Step

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@Pedro_Albuquerque wrote:

MAVLink - Step-by-Step

by Pedro Albuquerque

(still in progress)
This post result from my struggle to find information about the subject to understand the concept, and developing a basic concept test.

My background - I have been using Ardupilot software on Multirotors and airplanes for 1 year.
I learned to program C (C86, Microsoft C, Turbo C) 30 year ago (yes 1986) , and recently (2 month ago) I got to know arduino and its IDE.

back to the subject.

A message system

MAVLink is a message protocol, designed to exchange information between a UAV and a GCS or a subsystem (ex:gimbal controller), using a serial communication channel.

The base structure of the protocol is the message. For perfomance reasons it is binary information, so , eventually not readable by humans without some interpretation.

A simple message with acknowledge


this is an example of a message (WAYPINT_CLEAR_ALL) sent by the GCS to a UAV. The UAV receives and executes, and responds with another message (WAYPOINT_ACK).
After sending the initial message, the GCS starts a timer to decide for a timeout state if no ACK messages is received .

System ID, subsystem ID and Message ID


Most messages will indicate source(originating) system ID (sysid) , subsystem ID (compid), destination system ID, destination subsystem/component ID and a message type ID

GCS system ID should be 255 (see here)
Vehicle ID should be 1
(see here the parameter on Ardupilot http://ardupilot.org/copter/docs/parameters.html?highlight=parameters#sysid-thismav-mavlink-system-id-of-this-vehicle)

Some subsystem codes are already reserved. look for MAV_COMPONENT on this page https://pixhawk.ethz.ch/mavlink/

Source sysID , compID and MSG are all encoded in the message header.

Destination sysID , compID when necessary will be part of the payload.

The payload content/structure for each MSG is defined here (keep calm… will get into practical details later)

Library support

A library is available to help prepare a message to be sent or to decode a message just received.
Actually, you will have to build your library following this instruction https://github.com/mavlink/mavlink to adjust it to your platform and your programming language.

You end up with a folder with your library called mavlink (or the name you decide eventually)


example Steps (performed on a Mac):
download de zip from github to a folder named mavlink-master
On a terminal windows , change to that folder and execute the command
“python -m mavgenerate”
on the new window choose
xml folder: …/tmp/mavlink-master/message_definitions/v1.0/ardupilotmega.xml
out folder: …/tmp/MAVLink
language: C
protocol: 1.0

How to use the result

Once the folder has been generated I moved it to the library folder , in my case as I am using an arduino as a auxiliar system I installed it at
…/libraries/MAVLink
and include it like

But what does it contain ?

This was something I really strived to discover
Remember, what we want - compose messages to send and receive messages and interpret them.
The message is the focal point.
So before going into coding, we need to first know what messages are available and their meaning/purpose.
The general message list can be found starting here-> https://pixhawk.ethz.ch/mavlink/#HEARTBEAT

Every platform may choose to implement a sub-set and/or additional messages. Arduplilot implemented messages can be found at http://ardupilot.org/dev/docs/mavlink-commands.html
Any message is composed of several fields(struct in C), and is a mavlink_message_t type .
Additionally each specific message has associated with it:
* a type def for the structure to hold the payload fields
* a pack function to load the message with the data
* a decode function to translate the message and load the payload structure (specific for each message)

all of this is defined in a include file with the same name as the message

example: HEATBEAT

definition file is common/mavlink_msg_heartbeat.h

note: the location of the file can be on platform folder or in common

type def: mavlink_heartbeat_t
packing function: mavlink_msg_heartbeat_pack() - load de mavlink_message_t type object with all the necessary information so that it can be sent
decoding function: mavlink_msg_heartbeat_decode() - decode the message and fill the mavlink_hearbeat_t type object with received message information
Note that this definition file serves both purposes, to prepare a message to be sent or to decode a message received.

Is that all?

We are almost there (able to write a sketch to receive and send a MAVLink message).

Receiving a message

we need to write a function to read de message from serial com and decode it.

now you just call it when you fill appropriate.

Sending a message

Sending a message is a bit more tricky.

The system running our software need to have a SysID and a CompID, so we have to decide one.

choose any SysID except 1 ou 255
choose compID 1 is case no match found to reserved codes.

CC_SYSID and CC_COMPID were defined by me for the source system, and I’m sending a message to a ardupilot system (the target system) that has SYSID = 1 and if not for specific component, then use the main that is CompID = 1

msg is an empty object of type mavlink_message_t that will be filled by the pack function
param_id is a char array with the name of the parameter
param_index if set to -1 will use the name, other wise we need to know the index of the parameter in the target system.

copy the message to a byte buffet who’s size is set to the largest message MAVlink will allow.

finally , just send it to com port.

Note: Remember each message has its own propose and its own payload data, so we need to check os it’s include message file what field do we need as I could not find any other documentation for it.

What you should achieve

  • Understand what Mavlink is
  • understand the concept and structure of a generic message
  • know how to generate and install a library to deal with MAVLink messages
  • Know where to find the available messages, and the implemented message in Ardupilot
  • know were to look for message definition
  • construct your MAVLink message receive and send routine.

Feel free to send feedback on how to improve this introductory document. Keep in mind that it is meant to help developers get into MAVLink concept and use.

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Help request for a wildly misbehaving pixhawk quad - EKF errors

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@RustyToad wrote:

Hi all, I've just had two very hair-raising flights. Here is a FPV recording of the particularly bad section of the second one. Note the climb rate (middle left), altitude (top right) and artificial horizon all detaching from reality at about 15 seconds:

I'm flying a White Sheep 480mm quad, with pixhawk and high quality ESCs, motors etc. It's previously flown reasonably well; although it's never been perfectly tuned, it was stable and easily controllable. Tonight I added a cheap Banggood gimbal, and everything went wrong. Each time I put on any speed or power, I got massive uncommanded movements in all 3 axes. These eventually died down both times, but each time I struggled to manage to land it.

I have had a look at the logs, and my vibration seems pretty high, especially in the z-axis. My props are balanced, and the pixhawk is mounted in a decent bed of soft memory foam (10mm thick or so). It's
previously flown fine like this, although I have struggled to keep vibration down. However this behaviour terrifies me, and I won't be happy flying it again until I know what's happened.

The logs also show an EKF error, about the time that the quad went wild. I suspect this is related to vibration, but don't fully understand it - my reading implies that in manual mode, this has no impact on flight, only in automatic modes (where it will force a controlled landing). I was in acro throughout.

The M8N GPS/Compass module I wanted was sold out, the one I have doesn't seem to have a compass in it so I don't have it plugged in, and I'm using the built-in one. In acro throughout so the GPS shouldn't matter, although it has a good lock throughout.

Full logs for the flights are here. One short hover, one terrifying flight. Two more short flights, making sure it was sane, then another lunge of idiocy.

Any help diagnosing what is going on, or advice for how to sort it, would be gratefully received!

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Radio telemetry linked but not able to transmit

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@Hugo_Ramos wrote:

I bought a hextronik telemetry 433Mhz kit and it being impossible to link,

The green led is solid when both units (the ground station and the air or conected to the AP2) and if i disconect one of then the green led start to blink so they are conected but the mission planner is not able to connect with the air unit

I tried all the baud rate possibles but no way

I tried to upload configuration in the mission planner sky radio configuration menu and here comes out some suspicius things

The ground or usb unit is able to be readed and uploaded by the mission planer but not the air or remote unit, I tried conecting the air unit by and FDTI cable to the computer usb and setting the mission planner com port as the FDTI detected but there the mission planner message is "failed to identify radio"

I try even downloading the I3dr radio config tool and happends the same the usb uni upload perfctly but the air unit no way to upload.....

I´m geeting desperate.... someone can tell me how to fix this issue?

Thanks for your time

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Trigger Camera NOW not working in mission planner

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@TenboAir wrote:

Continuing the discussion from Camera Trigger IR:

Hey, did you figure this out? I previously had a Sony Nex5A triggering via servo with a strattosnapper trigger, but recently updated my version of mission planner and now the trigger does not work (right-clicking "Trigger Camera NOW does not trigger the camera, and the DO_SET_CAMERA_TRIG_DIST does not actually trigger the camera during auto-missions). Very odd, can't figure this out.

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HK Pilot Mega 2.7 Issues with Firmware? APM Planner 2.0?

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@Highpocketse5 wrote:

I have had numerous issues with my quad after updating to the latest firmware and software. Nothing is showing in the Standard Parameters Tab and now I get a pre arm check warning for PreArm: ACRO_BAL_Roll/Pitch. I have no way to go in and disable the prearm check. I just want to fly. I should have left well enough alone and shouldn't have updated. Now I am grounded. Any and all help is appreciated.

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Lost throttle control in manual mode - full throttle!

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@RRacer wrote:

Hello all,
I've returned to RC from a 25 year break, and have been doing LOS flying with helis, planes and small quads.
This winter I got a Pixhawk that went into a Bixler 3. The Bix3 isn't as spacious as you'd expect...
So today my plan was to maiden her, just manual flying to see that the airframe was ok. Otherwise fully loaded.
I had the wheels on it so the start was ROG.
The start went as expected, but it felt a bit heavy due to all the things crammed into it and antennaes sticking out everywhere.
When in the air I tried to throttle back but it kept on going at full tilt, I thought I'd have to wait for the ESC to cut power and hoped there would be enough power for the servos and controller to glide it down.
All other controls worked but felt limited.
Did like 15 or so "circles" around the field before trying to change flight mode.
I did a quick change from manual to RTL and back to manual, and then gained control of the throttle again.
Landing went well but wasn't pretty.

Could you help me figure out what caused this?

I had to remove compass from pre arm checks for it to arm. Probably bad config of orientation of internal compass.
OrangeRx sbus receiver with sat.
M8N GPS
Telemetry to MissionPlanner GCS.

Zipped tlog-file appended.

2016-06-11 16-43-08.tlog.zip (595.3 KB)

Any help appreciated!

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Apm to pixhawk nightmare

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@mbu10 wrote:

Well been using apm for years all good.
Decided to go to pix hawk for a refresh.
And it flyers well in stable mode.
Now loiter...
The pixhawk comes back with compass varience. And tried and tried but not working.
Even in plugged the l2c port so it had to use the internal one which seemed to work but would "drain plug" as the compass was out a little on the pixhawk.
When I Connent the external compass again it is always out and I cannot figure out why? On a wooden bench in the garden nothing metal around me. Any ideas

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Heli servo output problems

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@ThomasH wrote:

Hello
I've started to setup a 450 and a 500 with APM 2.6. I think i've connected input and output correctly. Unfortunately I cannot get the input signals to move the correct servos. Ch2 - ele input is also moving the tail servo. Does anyone know if I have to change a setting in mission planer ?

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3.6, Elevons - Mixing_Gain/Mixing_Offset, Can't get proper throw

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@bchristal wrote:

Something changed in 3.6. When I setup a plane using my same parameters from 3.5 I don't get enough elevon throw when I pitch and roll the airplane. The TX response is fine. Just the autopilot response is too soft. I have Mixing_Gain set to 1.2 (the max) and it's still too soft. I can set Mixing_Offset to 1000, or -1000 and get good aileron throw or good elevator throw, just not both.

Reverted back to 3.5 and elevon throw is good.

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LOG of a very mysterious crash

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@shakys wrote:

Hello everyone:

Today I flew again my quadcopter after 6 months of getting new parts from another crash (also due to an undetermined cause) in January.


The drone I flew today had new battery, new and better motors, better propellers, higher end ESCs, and also frame (although the frame was the same model than I had installed in January).


The PIXHAWK, GPS and all the electronic devices that came with it were the same, NOT new.



Today I was flying at around 60-70% of the performance capabilities of the drone in terms of speed and mechanical stress when, suddenly and for no apparent reason, It started spining (rolling) and fell to the ground. I couldn't hear any noise or see any part flying in that moment. This crash has triggered all the warnings because I can't really know what the hell happened and neither in the LOG nor the video recording shows the cause (or at least I can't see it).



I'd like some expert to check the LOG/video and try to figure out why it's happening so I can avoid it in the next flight. Thank you so much in advance.





The hard shaking vibrations and strange noise come from the servo that holds the camera which was I little bit broken.



It's a long story, but I could only see the last 4 seconds the crash of January in my FPV Screen and I could see the copter spinning fastly while falling to the ground. Isn't that suspicious? I'm starting to think that my PIXHAWK (common part of equipment used) has some kind of bug or is defective and malfunctioning!



What do you think? Thanks again.



PD: I attached both crashes: RECENT (with new equipment except PIXHAWK) and the OLD one.


Recent_Crash.BIN (479.5 KB)

Old_Crash.BIN (484.4 KB)

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